If a building is going to be around for 50 to 100 years, and (for a high school) cost 70 to 80 to 90 million dollars, it needs to fit and last.

We want to be a district's partner and not just a vendor. We can better help them solve their problems if we are involved with them over years and really understand them.

It used to be pretty top down — boy, has that changed. It's a real participatory process. Everybody wants to be a part of the process — and they should be.

When you're growing that fast, it is a strain on time and resources, and the temptation exists not to devote the time.

In some districts, there is a view that a building is just something that keeps the rain out. We aren't given access to the curriculum folks. Some schools might say, 'A good teacher can teach anywhere,' but a good teacher will do a better job in a good facility. I wish every district felt strongly that design makes a difference in how students learn.