Mr. Hochberg was receptive to the idea because he was the one who said he would put a museum of some description in the barn, but he would leave it the commission's decision what would be an appropriate use of the space.

We want to have that choice, and we do not have it now.

Boys are interested in real stuff. It's got to be engaging for boys. It can't be quiet.

You store pictures and information as you read and you can see that valley, see that raging river. I am concerned children today are not seeing the pictures in their mind ? not imagining ? and that is very serious.

It's a lot of work for the owner ? maintain it, keep it in pristine condition.