The other thing that happens in the home visit is we might find out they also need pots and pans or something like that. Because the need has been validated with a form, they can take the form to the thrift store, and we'll give them what they need.

We'll sell to anybody. With the profits we pay our electricity, gas and water. After that, through our district council, we route the money to individual conferences for when they run out of their funds.