He's been playing the last week to 10 days with some degree of discomfort. From my knowledge, the discomfort has only changed mildly. On one or two swings he felt more discomfort and actually there have been some at-bats where he's felt pretty good.

It gives them better body awareness.

Greene's calf looks like a trout today. There are so many colors it's unbelievable. It looks like a speckled trout.

It looks like an oblique muscle.

What we've said all along is what the MRI, we thought, confirmed yesterday. We think Ramon probably is going to need surgery. But the MRI yesterday did not change our status that Ramon, if he's fairly comfortable and can play with the pain he's got, he should be able to play. But only Ramon knows how that feels.

We don't know all of the hurdles he has to cross over.

Do I think he'll make his next start? We'll wait and see.

I can't recall anyone ever doing that here.

I expect him to be sore after his next start but not extensively sore.