What was a quiet Sunday turned into a terrible tragedy very quickly.
We're hoping to find someone who might have been caught in a spot where there was some air, ... But ... as we get farther down and (the search area becomes smaller) it does become less of a possibility that they'll be alive.
They're cutting holes through the roof ... hoping there's people trapped below that roof in a spot ... where there might be a little room for them to breathe and where they might not be crushed.
Every firefighter knows that he is always susceptible to this type of tragedy. They go to work every day knowing that they are doing something so positive, that people really respect them and people appreciate them.
Were stepping on each other.
The more I walk it, the more I realize there's less hope, ... But we still believe there is hope in some of the mall areas and some of the below-ground areas where enough strength stopped the pressure and there's a void that people could still be in.
I think that one of the criticisms of this committee has been statements like you just made, talking about scandalous procedures and scandalous operations and rules and everything else.
They were surrounding (the original fire), attacking it, in every possible way, trying to get in there every possible way, ... Put the fire out as fast as they could so to avoid something like this. But, it must have been burning longer than they were aware of. There was probably more serious fire in the basement. It was visible as they began to get inside, and it just blew up without any warning.
There's nothing scandalous about how New York handles its emergencies. We had strong leadership with the mayor. We had strong leadership with the fire commissioner and with the police commissioner.
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