We really need to find out, No. 1, the characteristics of these people, and No. 2, how many of them are earning minimum wage and accessing public assistance.

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The poverty here is real, there's absolutely no doubt about it. If you can help them gradually take those steps out of poverty, you're going to fix many things.

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There's two days left in the session, and leadership has been very open to us. There's still money left.

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