You have to beg, borrow and steal, ... You have to swallow your pride and be able to ask for help, for money. A lot of people are willing to help independent filmmakers if they think there's a chance they're going to finish their film.

That, I think, is an even more valuable experience if you're in a position to see how they put the movie together, what works and what doesn't.

Mostly what I do to pay the bills is a lot of writing for corporate training films and producing those.

It's just a passion.

Sometimes the things that fall through are a blessing in disguise and you find something even better.

What they're getting out of it may not be money but experience and a credit, which they can use to get themselves a better-paying position on their next film.

That opened the door for a lot of people who may not have thought they could make films.

[Or it's just a compulsion.] It's not something you choose to do, ... You can't avoid doing it.