I didn't know much about it. You'd hear about it. You leave school in May for summer. You come back in the end of August, and a guy's got 30 pounds on him and looks like he should be playing football.

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He was, like, a 160-pound shortstop. Our junior year he batted second and I was lead-off. He didn't drink. He wasn't up to running around to the bars that we used to do, which is OK. He hung around the weight room a lot. He really got upper-body thick.

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We kind of knew he did them, but I don't know he did them. He didn't tell me. I never saw him using them. But it was kind of obvious.

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I lifted weights. But I never really even thought of it. I don't know if it was a real big deal at the time. It's a big deal now, but it wasn't a big deal then.

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It was kind of weird. I thought it was a bill collector. I was ready to hang up until he asked, 'Is this the guy who plays baseball at Fort Hays State?' Then I became interested.

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