If they don't win money, they still might win a nice dinner for on the way home.

Kevin knew quite a bit and he got me into more and more. I liked it and I got to be pretty decent.

Some guys will cast a plastic worm out there and hold it. But I like to keep moving.

It's the spawning season, it's easier to catch them. A lot of the guys can actually see them on their nest and you flip them into their breeding grounds.