It would be easy to take the attitude (that) whatever it costs doesn't make a difference. To the taxpaying citizens, it does.

It's always struck me as awkward that we have a two- or three-hour conference session that is less well-attended by the public. Because we've worn ourselves out in the conference session, there's little discussion at the council meeting.

When you're running a business, the worst thing that can happen is four different people expressing their views, which may make it difficult to consummate the deal.