The most vulnerable spot [on a fly rod] is right at the tip. That'll get broken off. It can get broken off in a car door, when you're fishing, [it's] very easy to do.

I'm just wondering who they've talked to, to glean all this information that the Brewer softball program is bad. I would have thought that they would talk to some people involved in the program. I don't know how they could have made a decision, not having been here.