We hope the start-up is flawless. But we have never done anything like it. We could start putting oil in and we could see things we haven't seen before.

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For now, though, oil and gas are irreplaceable.

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Just put two people in a car instead of one.

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We expect to get back to 125,000 barrels per day quickly.

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These are just some efficient ways without spending a lot of taxpayer money [to reduce energy costs ]. But if you get $ 3 [a gallon ] gasoline, people may say, 'I don't know if I want to live in Benton and drive to work in Little Rock. I may live in Little Rock.' But it's really hard. You're talking about people's lifestyles. It probably will happen gradually.

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