Illinois, Duke, that's a big difference. When you start getting down into the lower levels of Division I, there are a heck of a lot of (NCAA) Division II teams and NAIA teams that are absolutely as good. Not just this year. For a long time.

I think we were tight. We were maybe over-prepared and that can make you play tight. We've been playing a lot better lately. We're in a tournament mentality. I tell the kids, it takes deep commitment to change. It takes deeper commitment to grow. That's what we're doing.

They're just the team standing in the way of us going where we want to go. For the students, the schools, the people who make this into the crazy, sometimes ugly relationship, I can't answer for that.