He was pretty quiet as a player. I know he played a real good game his last game. It was down at Lock Haven. I remember that one but it's been so long. He worked hard, practiced hard and played hard.

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I find the hardest part is listening on the radio, whether it's Penn State or State College. That seems to be more nerve-racking than being at the game. You can't see things beforehand or anticipate anything.

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