It's tough for spouses because we've had spouses that come here, many of them are teachers, and they can't teach in the state of New York with the teaching degree that they have.

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The first child has trained the parents in a certain way and the first child has inexperienced parents. The middle child looks around and says, 'Let me try something different,' and that claim to fame is a way they can stand out in the family structure.

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