I thought he was in his ninth or 10th year. He's a big guy and he's good. He gets his feet where they need to be. He never seems to be out of position.

He's always full-go, giving his full effort, ... We feed off of that, especially the younger guys, when we're tired and beat up, he's still going full speed. You have to pick up your effort to mach his.

Around 7:30 [p.m.] it starts ringing like crazy.

It's really the same thing. Getting off the ball and staying low.

All of us are very athletic. The guys, I can say, are all great character guys. We want to win and want to be the best.