They are all iced over, there is no where for me to get down there.

On average, we're paying them back about $685,000 a year.

We have given him the benefit of the doubt.

My response to that is he also has a mile-long record of making progress happen.

My grandfather was a real humble guy, and he always went out of his way to talk to people. He made time for everyone. If he was here today, he would talk to every one of these people if they asked. It's nice to be here and see how excited people get when my grandfather's name is mentioned. Especially the older people who lived during his time. Their faces really light up when they talk about him.