It took me five years before I saw 100 grand. My first contract was for $40,000, with a $42,500 bonus.

That was a milestone.

It keeps your ego in check. I guess there's a mentality that says that when you reach a certain age, no matter what you've done, your skills are just diminished. So you have to prove yourself again and again ... 1995, 2001 and then last year, when I went to Kansas City and had to do it all over again for a new team. Those are all milestones.

Best pure ball-striker I've ever seen, ... He makes it look easy. I'm more of a technician. My foot is size 12 or 12 1/2. His is small. He can get all of his foot on the ball.

I've seen him a lot during the years, ... usually during those kicker competitions in Hawaii or Fort Lauderdale. We were even on a cruise together a long time ago. I was single. I think he was engaged. I can't remember what we talked about.