I actually love competing away. The team is all together, there are no distractions, we stay in the hotel together, we eat together and go to the gym together. It's sort of like you are invading someone else's territory.

I would definitely think we're back in a moment like Whitman was in, in the early 19th century, in which self-publishing is a very real thing, but it's increasingly requiring a level of skill that not everybody can attain.

They were up in our face. They just didn't let go.

You bet it was a struggle.

Yeah we're there, we're ready to go. We did a whole training, a whole cycle, just to get to this point.