It's a steel town. If you weren't going to college, you went to the steel mills. Everyone worked at J & L. Joe used to deliver fish sandwiches there. I used to help him. He'd take 200 orders there. It was good fish.

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They were inseparable. They were best friends in high school. I thought it was amazing when they started dating. When I was coaching her in basketball, he was always there. I used to have to chase him off. They still remain best of friends.

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