The intensity of their lobbying is incredible. Every time one of us would talk to one of the legislators, three lobbyists from the other side would just pounce. There were periods where I couldn't walk around the capital without them following me.

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Ours is the strongest in the country, and it sends a positive message. There was a tremendous amount of lobbying pressure by multinational companies against little nonprofit groups. Coke worked this nonstop.

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