He had the homes up on pedestals with no dirt around them for backyards. You couldn't drive down the driveway and into the garage because there was something like a 6 or 8 foot difference.

This project was approved before Terry Johnson was mayor. When Terry lived in the house (on Barnwell), he paid $2,000 a month rent just like anyone else. He didn't get any favors. He paid rent. He paid utilities.

I picked up the project in 2004, and we have not changed anything about it.