I don't think it was a glass ceiling. I think it was a barrier you have to break through, which I think every entrepreneur has to face in some way. You're just sitting there with an idea, you've proven nothing, you're just asking for money. It's just this very awkward odd time.

My experience is that entrepreneurs who have taken the step to form a board of directors are serious about growth.

She's the explorer and I'm the navigator. We meet in the middle on strategy and what's practical.