We'd get the scouting report on Monday and I would say, 'Wow, Les, look who you've got this week,'.

When we finished building our house in 2000, our taxes were $1,700 a year. Next year they will be well over $10,000. But the guy around the corner with the same size house is only paying $2,500. It's not fair.

He was very dogmatic. He wasn't interested in Ohio State.