I don't know if I can get more specific to the public than that. The signs don't seem to be doing it.

It's tough to come back in on that ledge when the ocean's flat. With today's 3-foot south swell and the easterly wind swell, it was even more dangerous.

It had the potential to be the worst ledge fatality we would ever have had. There were six people and they were all right there. And for one reason or another, she fell one way.