It's easy to find kids who are good and everybody wants. What's difficult is to find a kid who's better than he appears and know to go after that kid. We used to go after 6-(foot)-4, 6-5 post men we knew the big schools wouldn't go after. We would get good athletes at the post position and we always had a lot guards.

That was kind of like walking in a dream.

It took about two games to get our swagger. We didn't know anything. We were like babes in the woods. It was funny to see our team change in five days.

When you're going through something, you don't really appreciate everything that is happening until you reflect and compare it to something else. When I left, everything I compared in basketball I compared Midland College to it.

I think this is real special that they're doing this for me. We won a lot of games and a lot of those kids turned out to do some darn good things. There were a lot of people to thank for that. I had two great presidents, a great athletic director and great fans. I just never realized how good I had it.