With an artist it's like you're walking out into a room with your underwear on and everyone's pointing and laughing. When I show 'Raising of Lazarus' I guarantee that every artist in all of Salt Lake will come up and find something wrong with it. That gets kind of old.

That shocked a lot of people, including myself, to beat a team of that caliber right out of the gate. That gave our kids some confidence and they were able to buy in a little more because they saw the result on the floor.