There have been times when it was hard to get up in the morning -- hard to go to work.

It's doable by then (Sept. 1). Will it happen? I can't say. We've had our hearts broken here before. These are volatile issues and things could blow-up. Honestly, this thing could be done today. Will it? I don't know.

There are people disappointed out there. We thought the last five and a half years of the ESOP would make a difference in these contract negotiations.