We're not going to do cartwheels hearing that, because we are not out to destroy Sikorsky. We do hope UTC listens and returns to the bargaining table.

I think both sides were very careful not to get into any particulars. The good news is we are having a dialogue. We don't appear to be at an impasse.

We need affordable health care and they refuse to offer it. The shareholders can expect to see the Teamsters wherever they go.