The thing is, in today's political firmament Jim Black stands out because he's not ideological. He isn't identified with a particular point of view or a set of strongly held beliefs. He comes at legislation by trying to figure out how do you build a majority.

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He told the governor, 'I'm going to help you get the lottery,' and he worked it out. He's not a big lottery advocate. He's not a big lottery opponent. But he worked it out.

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