So when you're dealing with one addict, you're dealing with 8 to 10 other people that get affected because of the addiction. We have to look at public policy, the government, the people who are leaders and rely on them to do better public policy when it comes to a very, very addictive product.

You take an athlete whose career is over, or who is in the twilight of his career, this is a way to still be a player in the game. Gambling gives them the same kind of feeling they had in their careers.

That's about $9 million a year, and for a gambling ring that's not a big operation. It's not notable for the size, it's notable for who the players are that are placing the bets.

The hockey people didn't show up. (NHL commissioner) Gary Bettman is a smart man. I just think they're unaware of the risks and dangers out there for athletes.

I think it's a devastating illness, it's an illness that if it's not treated, it will end up that the person's whole lifestyle will be affected.

Sports betting is the rock of Gibraltar. It's American, like apple pie. That will always be there. People love to bet on it. People love to bet on their football games.