They are probably as good as I've ever seen in terms of the environment.

It's stupid to spend $100,000 and a year's worth of time writing a specific plan that is going to get thrown in a trash can if the district determines it's going to build a high school.

It seems like a more logical swap. Part of the problem with the beach beyond all the title questions is the value of the property.

Maybe this will help get us somebody who's more interested in neighborhood councils as a grass-roots effort, bottom up rather than top down.