We have investigated that back and forth and up and down, and there's just no evidence that he was involved in any prosecutable crimes during the period of jurisdiction for the tribunal. He looks clean.

One of the sad truths I have come to see is that for this kind of mass violence, you don't need monsters. Ordinary people will do just fine. This thing lives in all of us.

There are so many Cambodians, particularly young people, who just don't believe that these crimes happened. They think this must have been some evil external force - it must be China, Vietnam, the Americans who did this.