Talk about trying times. We had two babies and he was at San Diego State getting his teaching credential, and we were both working full time.

When the kids were babies, he would come home from work and say, 'I'm going to the gym,' and I knew intellectually that he needed to do that. Here I was, home with these babies and all I wanted to do was take a shower, be by myself for a minute.

We went out to dinner and to see the 10 Tenors a couple of months ago with friends. It takes us buying a ticket, putting our money where our mouths are.

They were the lowest rent in town for women, and we had a lot of diversity.