The idea is to get kids out on their bikes with other kids, and just show them what it is to ride a lot, then along the way, clean up their habits and get 'em to do the right things and look at things differently. But it's very fundamental.

When you see a 12-year-old kid winning national races, you can see a little bit of that. But they're not like that.

They used to get us out of grade school and bring us here. I'll do the same with him.