It's fine to say we need to eliminate subsidies, but we have to have an agreement on what subsidies are. If the name of this game is just about Airbus eliminating its reimbursable loans, this is not something we can accept.

The support that the state of Washington will provide for the 7E7 is a source of worry [for the EU], and it is a source of worry for Airbus also, I can tell you. We have raised that, as well as raising the Japanese support, $1.5 billion in loans; and the support from the state of Kansas; and also Italy.