Perhaps we've been a bit serious about our history in the past, a bit pious. I think maybe we focused before on the gloomier sides of our history, the entanglements that didn't work, the land wars and the things that went awry.
You get these debates in local communities and it is part of the wider debate - about how Maori and other people are going to articulate with each other in New Zealand and that can be a painful interface.
The things that they do I never would have dreamt of - it's quite exciting to see that. It's almost like a string of crackers - you light the first one but what happens after that is anyone's guess.
People are bouncing across boundaries - we are starting to have fun with our history rather than seeing it as something we have to castigate ourselves for.
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