Dan was the first real (crew chief) I had. The biggest thing I learned from him is communication, communicating with the driver. You have to get along and be on the same page to be competitive.

Still, I'm excited for Sean. He's a great competitor and great talent. I'm excited to play the owner game and the crew chief game.

I've learned that it's all about people, which I kind of knew that anyway. It's about treating guys right and getting the work out of them.

Most of them are making as much as they were before, or more in some cases.