That was against the rules. We grew up in a bubble. We hardly heard music other than what we heard in church. Occasionally we'd get to listen to oldies. That was considered wholesome, I guess.

It's neat to see how they're growing, ... The other night they were on Carson Daly. It was their first TV appearance ever. It was neat to see how they acted. It reminded me of how we were. They're still looking at their guitar while they're playing it.

I guess because of the way we grew up, we don't put people on a pedestal as high as other people do because we didn't know the pedestal existed.

We couldn't actually just come out and say we had sex with Kate Moss. We have to make it subliminal. It's amazing how much you remember after you sober up.