To be honest, I wasn't going to apply for the (Munster) job until John convinced me to. I was very concerned about trying to follow John and thought whoever did would get fired and their career would be over. But 26 years later, I'm still here.

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John and I wanted to do this for the 40th anniversary of Munster football, and neither of us is getting younger. I'm 55 and John's 70.

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