We didn't know there would be reimbursement. That was a zero factor in the whole thing. Reimbursement was not a condition for us doing this.

I just fought and fought. He wasn't expecting me to get loose.

He snuffed out 10 people's lives who had done nothing.

I feel like the city has learned that churches provide a tremendous resource. In time of crisis, what we need is the churches stepping forward. ... I believe the city has learned there are resources in churches that they need to tap into in the future.

He told us he was wanted in California and was headed for New York. He said all he wanted was money and a car, and he wouldn't hurt us.