It drives our point home that things aren't that great in health care in Manitoba. And it's going to get worse.

It's all fallen on deaf ears.

It was both self-regulating and self-selecting. If someone came banging on the door at midnight wanting to play hockey, you'd grab for your stick.

We're a tribe. We started as an architectural project and ended up as a social experiment.

We came up from architectural school and within four or five days we were building. We were doing our own ideas.

We've exhausted all diplomatic measures to try and stop the plan. Now the caregivers are on an all-out campaign to expose this plan for what it is -- a plan to save money on the backs of health-care patients and workers.

He sympathized, he understood, but he wasn't willing to do anything about it. We talked to Premier Gary Doer by letter, and he just passed it back to the minister.