That was different. I wasn't expecting to really be in there.

It was harsh. It was harsh on anybody.

You know the food is going to be fresh, it's going to be good, and you never know who might be in here.

Considering he was 18 years old, he more than held his own going against some former Division II players.

We've got it all covered, right here at this table -- traveling, cars, politics, law enforcement and religion.

You can be very cynical and say we don't have a choice. We don't do anything, the state will come in and issue mandates or take it over.