Playing with other people and other mediums helps bring other aspects of music out of you. You definitely have other ideas to take back to the Jacob Fred project.

This is a much more relaxed and user-friendly version of the band. We used to be intentionally jagged and avant-garde, but now we're able to say more with less and in the process bring a wider audience into the fold. In my mind, it's a much higher and more evolved form of expression.

Offensively, we just didn't make the plays when we had the opportunity. The defense gave us every opportunity up until the fourth quarter. We have some young kids out there at any given time on offense. They are going to get better and they will learn to make plays.