Some have gotten very angry, however, ... That's the reality.

We had never seen one before, Ben is the one who makes the decisions.

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We just worked hard at it, ... They had the car set up on the edge. If something had happened and I had to hit the brakes, I wouldn't have had any. They were pushing everything to the limit, using special grease in the wheel bearings and things like that - stuff you wouldn't really need today, but you did then.

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The qualifying went from two laps to three laps and then to four laps, stuff like that, hoping I'd mess up one lap and not get it, ... Then, they changed the track, took that hump out of (Turns) 3 and 4. Humpy said, 'I've got you now.' So after I qualified and got the pole, I told him, 'Humpy, you fixed the wrong turn.' And he did.

That was really a setback.

From what I've seen, Newman is a talented race car driver and knows how to go fast, ... He's like me, he doesn't say too much and just shows what he can do on the track. That's the way I was and the way the Woods liked doing it. We let the success we had on the race track speak for us.

It was probably a lot harder doing it on our own.