The only reason why I know is because I get asked all the time.

I tell people he wrestles like great pool players play. He sees three or four steps ahead. He is so confident and he sees things so far ahead.

The state tournament and seeing him was something I always looked forward to. To me, I wish we could do more to celebrate and acknowledge what he's done for the sport of wrestling in the state. He was a great man there's no doubt about it.