I'm being taught the carpentry skills. I'm being taught how to level stuff off and to cut stuff and measurement and the difference kinds of wood.

It's more important for us to win on the road, I think. Especially when we have that all-day bus ride to Mammoth.

If we beat them it will be amazing. It might be a shock to everyone else, but I don't think it would be a shock to our team. ... When a tough challenge comes along we play our best.