We'd been playing really horrible. But on defense, we held them to 17 points and that was our goal.

I said, 'where do you want me to stand, sir,' and he gives me a technical. That's a horrible way to end a season.

I don't know what it is about playing them, but we just always do well. They run a system and we tighten up our defense, don't get beat on back cuts and don't give them much.

I went up for a dunk and saw him (Dobson player) running under me. If I knew he was going to call a technical, I would have just landed on the guy.