Not a lot of people converted to Windows 95. It happened much more slowly than people expected, and it was really skewed into the business and corporate market as opposed to the home market. That reflected on the retail sales.

Twenty-two percent gross margins mean that Apple gets more money per machine they sell. That's good. The other thing is that the operating expenses are substantially reduced. That means that the overhead involved in selling the machines has gone down substantially which reduces the break-even point for the company.

It's not important for Dell, but it's a viable market for some. There's clearly a demand at that price point.

Someone ought to be able to make a profit. If you ask Compaq, they'll tell you they're doing well in the consumer market. Compaq is getting whacked at the low-end corporate market.