People are buying animals who are not aware of the circumstances, ... You spend a lot of money, $400 or $500, the animal dies shortly thereafter, and you have no recourse.

My question is, if you thought you could do this through the PUC, why did you spend two years trying to run legislation?

I've been involved in this a long time, ... Until the hammer falls at the end, there is always a chance.

The job of [Cal-ISO] and DWP is to cooperate and keep the lights on, not to engage in territorial fighting.